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Re: New parts, no boot

Subject: Re: New parts, no boot
From: Mara <go@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:58:07 -0500
Newsgroups: 24hoursupport.helpdesk


On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:12:13 +0100, "Brian Cryer" <not.here@localhost> wrote:

>"Mara" <go@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
>news:oq329416lqjl5avu39c1o55cebutv655sp@xxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Ok, guys, gals, animals, sharks, fishes, vegetables, animals, minerals, 
>> etc.
>> Here's one for you.
>>
>> I just replaced the motherboard, CPU, and power supply in my new machine.
>>
>> Motherboard: Asus M3N78 Pro w/ GeForce 8300
>> CPU AMD Phenom 9850 Black Edition
>> Power supply: Thermaltake W0116RU 750W
>>
>> I'm not getting anything. I hit the power switch, the fans twitch, but 
>> that's
>> it. Memory is known good and approved for the board. Video is onboard 
>> GeForce.
>> Tried PCI video card instead, no luck. Tried the memory one stick at a 
>> time, no
>> luck. Tried nothing but onboard video and one stick of ram, and the boot 
>> drive,
>> no good. There are no jumpers on this board except clear CMOS and chassis
>> intrusion.
>
>Unlikely to be memory - because even without memory the pc should start, 
>although it won't get very far before the bios beeps at you.

Yes.

>I'd suspect the m/b or power supply. Since you said this is a replacement, 
>are your old m/b and power supply still available? (and do they work?) 

Yes, they both do. Not well, but they do. I have a Phenom 9600 and an Asus M3A
motherboard. I just got those a couple of months ago.

>If so 
>then use those to identify which are good. Be aware that if the power supply 
>is duff then its possible its fried your motherboard, so don't try placing 
>the suspect power supply in a working system. However, does the pc start 
>with your old power supply? 

Haven't gotten that far yet.

>If it does then clearly your new power supply is 
>bad, if it doesn't then your new motherboard (or cpu) is duff - but this 
>doesn't put your new power supply in the clear because it might be what 
>caused it to die.

I know that the power supply is sending power as far as the motherboard. But
it's either not getting the signal back from the board to power on up, or it's
defective. So, it really could be any of the three.

>Other possibilities, have you got all the necessary connectors between the 
>power supply and the m/b connected? I'm sure you have (because your other 
>replies indicate you know what you are doing), 

I'd better, because it's what I do for a living. And all my home systems, except
for the two Apples, are ones I built.

>but just incase ... normally 
>there is both a 20 pin connector AND a 4 pin connector to connect, which may 
>be together (i.e. a single 24pin) or separate (20pin and 4pin).

This board actually has a 24-pin and a 4-pin 12v, IIRC - I've been pretty tired
lately, so it's a bit foggy right now.

They were in place, yes. the 4-pin 12v connector *has* to be used as the system
won't boot without it, according to the manual (yes, I know it's against
tradition to actually *read* the manual, but I do anyway, sometimes.) The PS
actually comes with a lead that has *two* four-pin 12v connectors at the end,
but I tried both and still nothing.

>> The only parts *not* known to work are the new ones, and I don't have the 
>> time
>> or inclination to mess with it. Any ideas on what I should RMA out first?
>
>Sorry, I think you ought to narrow it down a bit before you start returning 
>parts.

I'll test with the original PS and CPU tonight - if I have time.

>Hope you get it sorted.

Thanks. :)

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